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Clash of the Titans by Fragillimus335 Clash of the Titans by Fragillimus335
Spinosaurus and Tyrannosaurus, what else is there to say? Two massive super predators, displaced in time and space, being forced to face off for my enjoyment!

Spino was a 16-16.5 meter, 10-12 ton mixed carnivore, and Tyrannosaurus was a 11-12+ meter, 7-8 ton hyper carnivore.  This spinosaurus is probably too tall, recent discoveries have indicated that the legs were short and robust.
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Terizinosaurus Featured By Owner May 15, 2015
 MY FAVOURITE DINOSAURS!
IT IS FANTASTIC!!!:) (Smile) 
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grisador Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015
Awesome Artwork ! :O

It seems like small legs could be a wrong discovery; So it could still be long enough
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe, but they were probably shorter than I drew them here.
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grisador Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2015
İnded; Slightly smaller, Yes


But not much Smaller and powerless as NazarGeographic wants us to Believe :/
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acepredator Featured By Owner Edited Nov 9, 2014
with updated limbs (even though this was still bipedal regardless of leg length), this is a stalemate on land (they can't kill each other), and a mismatch in water ( the spinosaur is much faster and more agile and can drown the tyrannosaur easily)
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
My thoughts exactly, I might even give the Tyrannosaur an edge unless the legs really aren't that short.
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acepredator Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
No, the narrow gape makes that theropod unable to do anything.

Since neither side can injure the other, nobody wins.
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not that narrow!  It could easily crush the skull/neck region if it got within range.
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acepredator Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014
Considering T. rex is built for attacking smaller game, I'm not sure it it would try this (or if the attack would not be deflected)
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
How small?  I wouldn't consider a 5-6 ton ceratopsian small.  And it would be much harder to bite than a Spinosaur neck.
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acepredator Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014
That is small compared to giant crocodilians or sauropods (not that either hunted the latter)
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
There isn't a crocodilian much bigger than 5 tons.  A spinosaur neck isn't any more difficult to bite than a Triceratops neck.
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randomdinos Featured By Owner Edited Oct 9, 2014
Been wondering,  do you think that an updated, 15-17 meter Spinosaurus could stil stand up against a 11-13 meter T.rex despite the really small hindlimbs?

My personal opinion is that it would be a fair battle, where it would be harder for Spino to reach and knock down Rexy and game over.  On the other hand,  now that Spino is no longer taller at the hip, it's a bit easier for T.rex to strike the finishing bite.

So, my thoughts:

With long-legged Spino: 75/25 for the Spinosaurus. 
With updated spino: 60/40 for either competitor, depending on their edge of size range.
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Tyrannosaurus seems much better equipped to win this encounter now, although Spinosaurus would definitely make it a close match.
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LordMasterJohn Featured By Owner Edited Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
My hipothesis is:

Spino may be bigger and with bigger arsenal,
But T-Rex carries the more powerful bite,
If T-Rex catches Spino in the neck,
He simply crunches it and Game over,
T-Rex Wins

(Great image Btw)
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Very true, if Tyrannosaurus got a bite on Spinosaurus's neck, there would be no surviving it.
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LordMasterJohn Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow,
Finally someone aggrees with that teory,
Most Told me There was no way T-Rex Could win, just because Spino was bigger and T-Rex Smaller.
(For me they obviously based their opinions on Jurassic Park 3)
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Spinosaurus was probably longer and heavier, but wasn't much of a runner, If it could keep T. rex's jaws away from it's neck, and wrestle it down, it could win, but there are very few animals that could survive a tyrannosaur bite to the neck.
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LordMasterJohn Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Just what I think,
Some say T-Rex is overrated,
And he may be,
But that doesnt mean he isnt the Strongest Dino,
He was one hell of a Killing Machine
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, he wasn't the strongest dinosaur by a long shot, most sauropods, and some ceratopsians/hadrosaurs were certainly stronger.  But certainly one of the most powerful predatory dinosaurs found so far.
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LordMasterJohn Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I mean Predator XD
Yeah, Youre right,
Im glad to find another dinosaur Expert :dance:
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!
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Metalbassist6666 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014
My theory on the Jurassic Park 3 debate is this. Yes, THAT Spino would have won, hands down. That's because there were a multitude of variables working in it's favor. The t-rex was likely a younger one. Maybe it was sick. Whenever Ingen bred the Spino, it's obviously not a perfect copy. It might have been bred with another stronger theropod, maybe even another rex, considering how bulky it was. Under normal conditions, the rex would likely win, but in the movie, there is absolutely no question that the spino would win. 
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LordMasterJohn Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmmm, I never saw it that way...
Great Theory Man 8)
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acepredator Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
Mismatch
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It probably would have turned out pretty close.  Spino has size and power, but rex's bite is insanely powerful.
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acepredator Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
Does not matter when the only important target isout of range.
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Probably, but new evidence might point to Spinosaurus having really short legs.  It hasn't been published yet though.
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acepredator Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
Then it isn't 100/0, but 90/10-still a mismatch. Spino could tackle it to the ground and I don't see T. rex getting up in time.
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
90/10 is pretty unlikely.  I'd think 60/40 is more reasonable.
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Dalek1965 Featured By Owner May 18, 2014
Well, Tyrannosaurus had a pretty nasty biteforce, not to mention the bacteria and whatnot he supposedly had, so I'd say that it would probably take ONE lucky bite... Maybe. I could be wrong, though.
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The bacteria thing is completely fantasy. There is absolutely no evidence for it.  However, the bite force was immense, and if Tyranno could place a good bite it would be game over.  Spinosaurus's size gives it an advantage of keeping it's neck out of rexy's jaws, and then knock it down.
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Dalek1965 Featured By Owner May 19, 2014
So basically, that ONE scene in Jurassic Park 3 (you know the one) SHOULD have ended with Rex winning?
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner May 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, if rex got a bite in like that it would be game over for any theropod.  
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Dalek1965 Featured By Owner May 20, 2014
Oh my.
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Justisaurus Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
This is a really good drawing, but the Spinosaurus does look a little big. As far as I know the largest estimates of it were about as tall as T. rex and just a few tons heavier and 3-4 meters longer than Sue. In fact Sue's new weight estimate is likely over 9 tons in recent studies. Didn't know if you were aware of that or not but I thought I'd mention it. And I agree that for the most part Spinosaurus would scare T. rex away, but perhaps if, in a hypothetical situation, if a Spinosaurus was attacking the babies of a T. rex, the tyrant lizard would attack and probably kill the spine lizard. And even if the Spinosaurus did win the fight, it probably wouldn't have been able to kill something as robust as a Tyrannosaurus, more likely just drive it off with a few blows of its claws, and I it was lucky maybe blind it. Anyway, great picture, and that was just my opinion on the situation.
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!

Yes the Spino is just a tad too large here, but only by about 1 meter in length.  Although that new study did make Sue weigh 9 metric tons, she looked like an inflated sumo wrestler. (Newer is not always better!)  More accurate volume estimations put the largest Tyrannosaurus's (like Sue) at about ~7.5-8.1 metric tons and 12.3 meters long.  While Spinosaurus was probably ~13+ tons and ~16-17 meters long.  At these sizes Spinosaurus would also be at least a meter taller than Tyrannosaurus at the hip.

If a fight did occur Spinosaurus would probably go the route of trying to push Tyrannosaurus over and crush it's ribs, when you have a 5 ton weight advantage and gigantic arms, a wrestling match is definitely in your favor.  
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Justisaurus Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
You're welcome! Really? Because most sources I've found said that Peter Makovicky explained 9 tons was actually the minimum weight estimate they came up with, so if they're right, she could be even heavier. In fact :iconscotthartman: recently made a post about how the estimates he made put a T. rex Sue's size at ~8.5 tons, heavier than both Giganotosaurus specimens, so she's definitely heavier than previously thought. I think 13 tons is a bit much for a Spinosaurus at 16-17 meters. I'd say more along the lines of around 11-12 tons is more likely. You also have to remember though that T. rex had some of the longest legs relative to body-size of any vertebrate, and a tyrannosaur has longer legs than a spinosaur of the same size. Although Spinosaurus definitely would've been taller, it wouldn't have been very drastic. I'd personally say a Spinosaurus would go more in standing up straight and roaring, and if that didn't work it'd go to a combination of swiping of claws and arms and trying to topple its enemy. You also have to remember that T. rex was really durable, Sue had several broken ribs from falling over and they all healed, showing she survived through it. It's true that size is important in a fight, but it isn't always the deciding factor. Don't forget that humans are bigger than chimpanzees and yet they could easily kill one of us in a one-on-one fight.
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ZealRaegus Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014
Justisaurus is being justisaurus? xD Lol.
And yes, your theory is straight on brother! 
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Justisaurus Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Haha, good to hear someone else agrees with me! :3
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ZealRaegus Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014
No one can deny T.Rex....The name is "Tyrant Lizard King." Even Bob Bakker once said: "Saying 'Tyrannosaurus Rex' is irresistible to the tongue for it to not say." xD Gotta love who named our mighty dinosaur savior.
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Justisaurus Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Haha, I sometimes say it to myself when no one's around just because I LOVE to hear and feel myself saying it! XD Yes, very true. Anyone who doesn't is obviously a terrible person.
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ZealRaegus Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
Exactly. It's just irresistible to the tongue. =P It's hard not to say the full name. Hell, even typing down "T.Rex" sounds like blasphemy when you can say "Tyrannosaurus Rex." 
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If you look at the images of Sue in that study they look hilarious, but weights of ~8 tons are very likely.
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Justisaurus Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Yes, I'd say 8 tons is definitely not out of the question.
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Megalosaurid Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
Tyrannosaurus would back-off instead of facing the Spinosaur, it's true that Tyrannosaurus was the much better predator, but Spinosaurus was way too big to actually loose against T.rex.
T.rex is my favourite dinosaur of all times but Spinosaurus was gigantic.
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acepredator Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
Spinosaurus was a beteter hunter in terms of hunting well-armed prey, as it ate fish with bulletproof armor and could decapitate it. Fish are also faster and harder to grip than dinosaurs.
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Nope, Tyrannosaurus was the superior hunter.  A 6 ton Triceratops is a bit more intimidating than a 1 ton fish.
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acepredator Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
It did hunt predatory fish weighing up to 3tons as well as crocodillians.
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Fragillimus335 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, but Tyrannosaurus probably took larger and more deadly prey.  Spinosaurus wasn't designed as a big game hunter.
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